SHAKTI VORSTELLUNG: Koetsu MC Tonabnehmer im Vergleich

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Koetsu Leopard Platinum (UVP 9.500,- eur)

sowie eines

Koetsu Blue Lace Platinum (UVP 9.500,- eur)

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Habe ein paar interessante historische Informationen zu frühen Koetsu Systemen gefunden, die ich gerne in diesem thread teilen mag:

Koetsu and the original Urushi

The Koetsu cartridge line and history are often misunderstood. This is to a large degree due to dealers who are, well..., dealers. Koetsu does not issue any spiel of their own. Between the never ending nonsense of dealers and no other information for reference it is easy to understand how a knowledge drift occurred.

The purpose of this blog post is to put forward the best information I have on what a Koetsu is and how to implement them well. The single best source of data I have is from a late night internet search years ago which turned up an unattributed 4 pages of information. However the unattributed information matched and helped make order out of the bits and pieces put together over the years. If anyone has other information please reply to this blog and I will update or change information as well as possible. Before we go further and get to the pictures let me state one thing about these cartridges, they need a heavy tonearm and a powerful turntable to get them to their designed performance level. All the nonsense out there about them being warm and loose in the bass is generated by people trying to run them on insufficient mass tonearms and insufficient torque turntables. Get yourself some mass and some torque if you want to play with these big boys and if you wish to comment intelligently on their sound.

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Here is the late night search content:

"Yoshiaki Sugano ( Sugano San ) was born in Japan in 1907 the son of a doctor . His life long hobbies included traditional Japanese swords , boxing and audio . He appears to have learnt metallurgy in order to repair broken swords. He studied political science in the 1930's at Meiji University and after graduation worked as a professional boxer for 3 years . At various times he worked with Shuihiro Nagata from Japanese Wireless Corporation and at Telefunken building valve amplifiers. After working briefly at Ford Motors he spent the bulk of his working life at the then recently created Toyota. He retired in 1967 from Toyota and started to experiment with modified Ortofon cartridges by substituting his own parts.

The name Koetsu was chosen for Sugano's range of cartridges in honor of his hero Honami Koetsu, a renaissance Japanese sword maker and artist. Some sources quote Sugano as being a direct descendent of Koetsu but this may be fanciful or a miss-translation. Technical characteristics of Koetsu cartridges tend toward use of high purity metals, both in the, initially, 4N copper coils of his generators and the metal formers on which the coils were wound. His stators are of simple but rigid high quality construction with unusually thick, hand-finished pole-pieces. The rubber dampers for the coils were pre-aged to produce very stable long term characteristics. Cantilevers were principally of boron giving a particularly good trade off between mass

( undesirable ) and stiffness ( desirable ). Diamonds are natural, nude ( un-tipped ) with an elliptical profile and, at least on the earlier models, a shaft elongated in the direction of the cantilever, presumably to improve the area of contact between diamond and cantilever. Tension wire has been said to be made of beryllium. All cartridges are of the low output moving coil configuration. Sugano appears to have sourced the raw materials for his cartridges from contacts in industry and universities. The long-term stability of Koetsu cartridges probably accounts for the fact that many buyers and sellers of these items dramatically under-estimate their age. Sugano combined a high degree of technical knowledge with traditional craftsmanship in the production of his cartridges but defaulted to using his ears as the final judge of the quality of his products and consequently largely omitted to publish technical data on his cartridges. He appears to have used an idler driven Garrard 401 turntable as his benchmark for listening tests . Depending on the perceived quality of the generator thus created a body was added of either standard ( Rosewood ) design or if of higher quality, stone ( originally onyx ).

Ranges:

Koetsu Black This model was apparently intended as an entry level device and the first two versions were made OEM by Musashino Audio Laboratories. The stator of the first Koetsu black bears little resemblance to later models but a cross-bar mounted generatotor, boron cantilever and standard stylus are retained.

Stylus & Cantilever Arrangement:

The boron cantilever is tapered at the end and the diamond inserted into a longitudinal split . The diamond is unusual in having a shaft elongated in the direction of the cantilever - presumably to increase the coupling with the cantilever, but unfortunately increasing tip mass. Superficial inspection makes the diamond appear to have been rotated through 90 ° compared to a conventional stylus . The tip has a super-elliptical profile. Several reviewers commented on the relatively large amount of glue used to secure the diamond.

Mark 1

About 1980 - serial numbers 5xxxx to 52xxx. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 23.94mm (base): Width 10.11mm: Height 14.36mm rear 15.15mm front Weight is 9.9g. Coil resistance 4.6 Ω. Output 0.64mV @ 1,Hz 5 cm/s Compliance 7.7 cu The shallow recess under the cantilever and a screw on the front of the body only appear on this version. Later versions have a simple slot under the cantilever. The cowl over the generator starts at a line joining the mid-points of the fixing holes. About 3000 cartridges appear to have been made but the design was not universally well- reviewed .

Mark 2

About 1982 - serial numbers 527xx to 55xxx. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 24.07 mm (base): Width 10mm: Height 14.46mm rear 15.1mm front. Weight is 11.2g. Coil resistance 4.9 Ω . Recommended Loading 50 - 500 Ω Output 0.45mV @ 1,Hz 5cm/s Frequency Response 10Hz - 50 Hz Compliance 14 cu. Channel Separation 30dB. Channel balance 0.2dB (average) Vertical Tracking Force 1.7 to 2.2g. Body shape is very similar to the modern Koetsu range and the generator is much more typical of the later black. The shallow recess under the cantilever has gone and is replaced by a simple slot. The screw on the front of the body has also gone. The different generator design results in the cowl over the generator being moved further forward, beyond the mid-point of the fixing holes. This cartridge was generally more favourably reviewed but there is some evidence that it was produced in smaller numbers than the Mark 1 or quality control was more stringent than with the MK1. “ his obsession with quality still leads to a large number of finished Blacks being scrapped – much to the importer’s dismay” - Hi Fi News 1982 .

Mark 3

( Original Goldline ) About 1985 - serial numbers 1xxxx to 13xxx. The appearance of the Goldline coincided with Koetsu using the Dynavector dealership and since Musashino's name no longer appeared under the cartridge it is tempting to assume that Dynavector were an OEM manufacturer for the goldline. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 22.63mm, Width 10.09mm, Height 14.65mm rear - 13.83mm front, Weight 12.1g, Coil resistance 4.9 Ω. Output level 0.36mv @ 1,Hz 5cm/s, Channel balance 0.2 db, Compliance 13cu, Channel separation 30db, Vertical Tracking Force 1.8g ( typical ). The body no longer features a generator cowl and the cantilever emerges from a simple slot. Internally the generator is similar to the Musashino Mark 2 version but quality of finish is noticeably higher. The body is also less resonant but heavier than the Mark 2. Visually the cartridge is distinguished from the later goldline by the black generator cover and the ( usual ) absence of reinforcing rings on the cartridge mounting lugs. The apparent reinforcement rings on the picture are simply the result of paint being removed by the process of bolt tightening, but a later second batch appears to have been made featuring reinforcement rings ( Serial numbers - 13xxx ). A version may have been produced for use at higher ambient temperatures. These may have a box marked 25°c and are alleged to have a damper which becomes stiffer with rising temperature. However only one such example has appeared in recent times on the internet and may simply be the result of over-zealous marketing to a wavering buyer.

Rosewood

The original Rosewood is said by various sources to have appeared at " the end of the seventies ". Earliest versions clearly have parts in common with the Supex SD900 but the body is heavier probably due to a more powerful magnet and more rigid generator assembly giving greater output and detail resolution. The original Longbody Rosewood was introduced in about 1979 with a 001 serial number but the Mark 2 version appearing about 1982 seems to have started again at 001 and this Sugano San " main sequence " seems to then have run to 1990 and serial numbers around 15200, giving an annual production of about 1900 cartridges. It is not Known whether the serial number was added before or after quality control was carried out hence the number of marketed cartridges may be substantially less than this. It is assumed that early production was slower, while designs were being developed and less efficiently made. Similarly later production was likely to be slower as the aging Sugano San was less able to carry out assembly and demand less with the increasing dominance of the CD format at least in the mass market.

Mark 1 MC1 ( Longbody )

About 1979 to 1982. This cartridge appears in two different series . The first series has a black coverplate, an inked serial number and the letters R and L to indicate channels ( illustrated ). The compliance is around 7 to 8.5cu. A later series 2 cartridge has a silver cover plate, a stamped serial number and higher compliance of around 12cu. The later series 2 Longbody certainly appears to have been available by the end of 1980. The MC1 differs from later cartridges in having a cantilever with an aluminium inner core coated with boron. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 31.18mm (base), Width 9.94mm, Height 15.8mm rear, 16.55mm front, Magnet – Samarium Cobalt, Cantilever – boron on aluminium, Weight 12.3g, Coil Resistance 5 Ω, Output level 0.56mV @ 1,Hz 5cm/s, Compliance ( of sample ) 8 cu. Separation > 35dB, An early Mark 1 Rosewood has a "long- body", a brushed aluminium crossbar mounted generator with an elongated and truncated pyramidal rear pole piece. The generator cowl is soft rubber and separate to the main cover . The serial number 0354 is inked onto the crossbar base and no country of origin is printed suggesting this early sample was intended for domestic consumption only. A slightly later sample, 1060 has the number impressed into the generator crossbar together with the word "JAPAN" suggesting that worldwide demand was rapidly established. The earlier rosewood has a black generator cover but the 1060 has a silver cover.

Mark 2

About 1982 onward Not withstanding detail improvements, this was essentially the archetype Rosewood for the remainder of the Sugano San period at Koetsu. Sugano San serial numbers appear to run from 001 to at least 15200. Stylus and Cantilever arrangement Compared to the Koetsu black, the stylus mounting arrangement is enhanced by addition of a rectangular metal plate at the base of the diamond shaft acting as a collar. Glue application is also more even and precise. Again, superficial inspection makes the diamond appear to have been rotated through 90°. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are: Length 24.45 mm at base, Width 10.22 mm, Height: 14.22 mm rear, 15.05 mm front, Weight 9.7g, Coil resistance 3.9 Ω, Output 0.34mV @ 1,Hz 5cm/s, Channel balance 0dB, Channel Separation 30dB, Compliance 10 cu, Vertical Tracking Force 1.9g (typical), This has essentially the same body shape as the Mark 2 Musashino Black. Later 2 variants were produced - a " Signature " version with a higher specification, particularly more closely matched coils, and this body shape, a slightly cheaper " Standard " version having the Mark 3 Goldline Black body shape. Some versions of the standard may also have been produced with silver wire coils and feature an "S" prefix to the serial number. Reinforcement rings on the mounting lugs are thought to have appeared between 1985 and 1987 , probably between serial numbers 12214 and 12832 .

Onyx Body

Dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 24.58 mm at base, Width 10.21 mm, Height 14.31 mm rear, 15.28 mm front, Weight 11.9g, Coil resistance 5.1 Ω, The Onyx version of the Mark 2 cartridge comprises the only stone bodied cartridge of the Sugano San period and although of higher performance than the rosewood it is the later Urushi which is the top model of this period. This contrasts with the Fumihiko ( modern ) range in which the Urushi sits below the stone bodied cartridges which generally have the platinum magnets. Onyx cartridges appear in clusters of serial numbers, prominently a 10xxx series and a 129xx series. It is assumed that as generators were auditioned, the better products were held back and sent in batches to have Onyx bodies added.

Urushi Mk 1

about 1990. By the end of the 1980's demand for phono cartridges was rapidly diminishing and it seems that Koetsu were probably not operating as a commercial company for 3 to 4 years after 1990. Sugano San was reaching the end of his career as a craftsman but continued to advise his sons on the development of new models. The Urushi Mark 1 is essentially Sugano San's swan song product and a stunning example of Japanese decorative art deemed far too expensive to reproduce on the later " Mark 2 " Urushi models. Unusually the Mark 1 Urushi body shell appears on generators from several different series. A unique generator series xxx ( 3 digits ) from the Sugano San "main sequence" xxxxx from the 82xxx generator series (From Fumihiko Sugano series ) . It may be that a number of body shells were originally produced that Sugano San was no longer able to complete generators for and hence some earlier generators were used and possibly some made by his sons. Body dimensions for sample cartridge are Length 24.23mm, Width 9.47mm, Height 13.97mm rear, 15.24mm front, Weight 11.9g, Coil resistance 3.5 Ω, Output level 0.56 mV @ 1,Hz 5cm/s, Compliance ( sample ) 8.4 cu. Vertical Tracking Force 1.8 to 2 g. The body comprises an aluminium framework coated in a thick layer of Urushi tree resin and finally the decorative finish applied . This differs from later Urushi models which comprise the Urushi resin on a rosewood body. This was the first model to incorporate platinum magnets to control eddy currents. Urushi lacquer is a natural material made from the sap of trees grown in East Asian countries. The Urushi is in very limited supply. The deciduous Urushi tree takes 15 years to reach maturity and each mature tree can only supply 200 grams of sap. The Urushi sap (which is poisonous) is then mixed with other compounds to form the lacquer. If applied to a surface and kept in high humidity it slowly sets (hardens) into a hard, durable, waterproof and lustrous finish which is resistant to most other materials.

Approximate Ages of Koetsu Cartridges:

Rosewood MC1 ( Longbody ) 1979 to 1982 Serial Numbers 81xxx ? Fumihiko Sugano * Rosewood Mark 2 ( Sugano San ) Year of manufacture = 1982 + ( serial number / 1900 ) approx? Fumihiko Sugano and other family members, Serial Numbers 46xxx circa 1987, 190xxx pre 1987 ( no re-inforcement rings), 49xxx circa 1989, 82xxx circa 1989, early numbers 89xxx circa 1989, 92xxx circa 1991, 82xxx 1998 to 2003, late numbers 6xxxx 2003 to 2006, 7xxxx 2006 onwards,

Black Mark 1 – Serial Numbers 5xxxx to 52xxx – 1980 to 1982, Black Mark 2 – Serial Numbers 53xxx to 55xxx – 1982 to 1985, Black Mark 3 ( Goldline ) Serial Numbers 1xxxx to 13xxx 1985 onwards, Urushi Mark 1 – about 1990 . * The "8" prefix appears both before and after control of the company passed to Fumihiko Sugano and it is therefore assumed to denote a cartridge made by him. In Chinese and Japanese culture the number "8" has connotations of " good luck ". The numbers 0 , 6 and 9 also have positive meanings and accordingly may denote cartridges made by other members of the Sugano family"

- Unattributed

In the latter section comes the mention of the Urushi MKI. Lovely collector's item.

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They were the first Koetsu to have platinum magnets and the last to be built by Koetsu founder Yoshiaki Sugano. A solid metal case with thick Urushi Lacquer weighs in at 13g and paved the way for the stone bodies.

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I stumbled upon one of these more than ten years ago. Later I had a MKI Onyx as well as a Coral Stone. I preferred the Urushi even though I did not know it had platinum magnets and was the last model built by the founder himself.

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I was about to try a another stone body when I saw serial number 8022, very close in serial number and a bit earlier in sequence, which had not suffered a third party rebuild. It soon will go back to Koetsu to have its aged suspension rebuilt.

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Juergen

lasse mich gerade mal wieder von einem Onyx klanglich verwöhnen

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Juergen

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Nach dem Ableben von Fumihiko Sugano ist es nun sichergestellt, dass es bei Koetsu weitergeht. Der jüngere Bruder wird das Geschäft weiterführen.

Die neu aufgestellte Firma hat eine längst überfällige Preiskorrektur durchgeführt, so dass die Koetsu Systeme nun wie folgt zu erhalten sind:

Koetsu Black GoldLine --------------------------------(VK 2.650,-)
(auf Lager)

Koetsu Rosewood Standard-------------------------(VK 3.100,-)
(auf Lager)

Koetsu Rosewood Signature------------------------(VK 4.600,-

Koetsu Urushi Tsugaro-------------------------------(VK 5.400,-)

Koetsu Rosewood Signature Platinum---------(VK 7.500,-)

(gebraucht auf Lager)

Koetsu Azule Platinum------------------------------(VK 10.500,-)

Koetsu TigerEye Platinum-------------------------(VK 10.500,-)

Koetsu TigerEye Platinum Diamond----------(VK 14.500,-)

Der deutsche Vertrieb erwartet Mitte Januar eine erste begrenzte Lieferung neuer

Koetsu Systeme, welche noch von Fumihiko Sugano gefertigt wurden, vielleicht ja für den einen oder anderen Sammler interessant.

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Juergen

Zitat von chili69

Dann hab ich ja alles richtig gemacht…

be dem tollen Klang sowieso

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Juergen

Zitat von Hamecher

Moin Jürgen,

was ist denn der Unterschied zwischen den beiden tigeraugen?

Lg

Ih

Das Tiger Eye Diamond hat einen Diamant Nadelträger und klingt dadurch etwas frischer und höher auflösend. Prinzipiell kann man jedes Koetsu System mit einem solchen Diamant Nadelträger bestellen, dies kostet dann 4000,- eur Aufpreis.

Die Koetsu Stone Body Diamond System liegen preislich mit 14.500,- eur auf dem level der Konkurrenz, so haben zB Ikeda Akiko, Etsuro Gold und Phasemation PP-5000 ebenfalls Diamant Nadelträger und sind preislich entsprechend auch im 15.000,- eur Segment angesiedelt.

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