Zur Weihnachtszeit habe ich wieder viel in internationalen Foren gelesen und mir ist wieder einmal aufgefallen,
dass die Beschreibungen von Klangeindrücken im Whats Best Forum immer wieder gut gelingt. Einer der asiatischen Mitglieder hat aktuell 4 Plattenspieler in seinem set up und wurde gefragt, wie der diese klanglich beschreiben würde.
Ich mag diese kurzen Klangbeschreibungen hier gerne teilen, da ich mit solchen Beschreibungen viel anfangen kann und mich freuen würde, wenn solcherart Beschreibungen auch im deutschen "High-End" ihren Einzug finden würden:
"Kronos with SPSC-1 power supply.
- Obvious aspect you notice will be the quietness. Sound especially vocal pops out from dark back ground. The tt itself has small mechanical sound when you walk closer to the motor. This quietness is comparable to the AF1P. My friends who only do digital all gave me this comment. The optional power supply makes the image more focus. This tt sounds more casually lively than the AF1P. With live jazz and vocal I like it more than the AF1P. The presentation is more up front than the Af1 and AS2000. The music from it is dynamic and snappy (fast?) but not weighty like the Af1P and 927. I don't think it does PRaT as well as the other three. My unit had frequent problems with speed control. By the time it got fixed I already felt more confident with other tts. The Kronos plays very well and exciting with new vinyl pressing. With old records it does not preserve the uniqueness of different recording so well. The finish of Kronos is less than impressive although Boonyarat can photograph it so nicely.
- It plays music very clean, neat, articulate, instruments are very organized. If you highly value quietness between notes then this is it. The presentation is less upfront than Kronos but more grand scale. You listen to orchestra or jazz big band you feel that each instrument is neatly laid out. Impressive staging. Some how I often have a sense of watching a parade when I listen. The AF1P has a hefty weighty dynamic probably because of the bass. All these make up exciting sound. I can see why Micro who loves his dCs ditched the 927 and embraces the AF1P. I think it also plays amplified music better than the other tts I have. Basically if you go by check boxes and score of each check box, the AF1P will win most points. You listen to it long enough you notice a sound pattern and it will keep reminding you its impressiveness.
- This tt is the most rhythmic tt of the four. I must remind that I am talking only about my unit. The 927 is 50+ years old so each could be different depending on how it has been maintained. It sounds big...bigger than the other three. I don't know because it is idler or because of its big plinth. It reminded me of the big plinth Acoustic Signature Invictus which also sounds big like the 927 but with better resolution. 927 has quiet back ground but not black back ground like the Kronos and AF1P. The resolution and detail retrieval cannot match the Techdas or AS2000. But frankly It does not lack resolution. If you are not crazy at comparing specific and you dont put the Techdas or AS2000 next to it, you would not be saying what I said. The 927 is even more dynamic than the Af1P. Music has tremendous presence and involvement. Many things MikeL said about his Saskia sounded like he was describing the 927. Your foot will be tapping and attention will be paying to the musical performance. I find the tone to be a little warmer than the others. Best for old jazz. And best with Master Sig.
American Sound AS2000.
- The American Sound is not a tt that would wow you from the start. It is a tt with no "bling" in sound. No explosive dynamic. The sound stage is narrower, less deep and less layer than the AF1P. Instruments also not neatly laid out like the Techdas. It sure sounds smaller with less rhythmic punch than the EMT 927. And music just does not pop out from muted dark background like the Kronos. To be honest on the first day I did not feel anything very special about it except for hearing music more transparent and open than from the other tts.
It is not a wow tt what good is it then? The more I listen the more AS2000 impresses me with its "naked transparency." It is just so darn transparent so clear so open. This make you hear more from a vinyl and make you able to hear better atmosphere of the recording venue, the difference between pressings of the same music and the new gear or tweaks you add into the system. The nuances coming out of AS is phenomenal..better than AF1P and 927. I think since it does not try to make back ground so quiet by erasing or blackening, or accentuate certain tone, the tiny micro info is still left available to hear. The sound is naked and you will keep hearing things the more you listen to it. It just does not expose things in obvious way. The beauty of its sound is in the naked-ness without putting makeup cosmetic on. More of a beautiful woman in front page of National Geographic rather than Vogue.
Next impressive thing is its ability to expose how a singer control his/her voice, or how a violinist control a stroke of his/her bow. You can hear when there is a tiny shift in control. This helps boost the sense of realism and make you impress how musician or singer perform more than the sound. I value this so highly because I like to compare the same piece of music by different musicians and I choose which one I like more by the way he/she plays. I don't know how much speed consistency and accuracy contribute to this.
Third is the size and scale of images. Big or large is not my cup of tea. To me for things to sound real the size and proportion of sound should give a good approximation to you to visualize the actual event. I listen to a lot of old records. Old recordings tend to not put microphone very close to the sound source like today. So they somewhat sound like you stand away in front and use your hand phone recording a band playing Live. The sound size of AS playing classical old records gives me the sense of realism in term of size closest to my analogy. Ddk might think otherwise but I find 927 while gets less in the way of music, the size of its sound is less realistic in comparison to the AS.
Now this is very important. The AS2000 makes me realize I don't need a sheer grunt, hefty out right constant dynamic to make listening interesting and feel more natural presentation of the musical performance. The AS2000 instead shows me that the contrast in dynamic, tone and timbre when music is performing by different instruments is actually the key to natural sound. Different contrasts at micro and macro level make sound reproduction less homogeneous. The AS 2000 especially with the 3012R allow me to hear these contrasts more than other tts I own.
I cannot end with out saying this. I think the tuning of a cart is so crucial for AS2000 to show how good it is. (Also doing the things that PeterA is doing now.) As I said at beginning the AS has no bling to add to sound. It will pretty much play vinyls as good as the vinyl is...no helping. So you have to have your arm cart set the best you can to extract what is in the groove. I think this is why ddk practically made me learn how to set up a cart. A difference of two cards thick can mean a worm hole that happens infront of you to hear Heifetz playing with the sound of his violin pouring out of that worm hole and the one that like a very clear glass window with less connection to the sound of his violin.
99% of my time is spent listening to music from AS2000 now. The more you listen to music from AS the more you make "realization" of sound, you also realize you don't miss anything, if anything is missing it is probably something down the line in your system, and at the same time be amazed at how much music is in those vinyls. The vinyls themself become a determinant how good the sound will come out of your system."
ergänzende Antwort vom AS 2000 Hersteller:
"You actually explained more about the AS2000 that I usually do. You're absolutely right that AS2000 was designed not to wow anyone with the typical "Vinyl" sound that people expect from a massive turntable. It's the ethos of "Nothing", nothing added and nothing taken away. In my concept, the music should impress and not the components. Any kind of signature wether it's impressive or not is a coloration additive and it will homogenize recordings, basically what you heard and described as an obvious character for your other turntables. A lot turntables, even a Garrard 301 can do the big and impressive but that's not enough, music is about the small too. All the micro and macro dynamics that an instrument produces are in those beautiful grooves but are fragile, AS2000 is unique in it's ability to allow the cartridge and tonearm retrieve all this precious information so you can hear music as it was played in the most natural way. It's the musician that impresses and touches your heart you need complete transparency to have full tonal range and tonal depth and purity so hear the recording and not the gear. This is idea behind AS2000, keep the source intact and natural disappear!
SME 3012-R is AS2000's natural partner, there's no tonearm I've come across at any price that can match the SME's natural bass reproduction not only in tone, timbre and texture but also in volume, the right balance not to exaggerate and according to the recording and not try to impress like many others do. Natural bass is the most difficult part of audio reproduction to get right, it's easy to wow and impress but then it's not natural."
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